Tagged: Its all about the HUNT!!!!
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November 29, 2013 at 6:54 am #9712
I’ve been handgun hunting since about ’97. I’ve taken deer with my S&W 586, Colt Trooper, (both 6″bbl.357mag), but mostly my custom Super Blackhawk in .44mag pictured below. The .357′s I use Winchester Black Talons, 180gr., or 180gr.XTP handloads. My .44 I use 240gr. XTP, (used to use 200gr) handloads. This year I just had a custom .357 barrel made by MGM for my encore, also in the photo. It’s a 9.5″ bull barrel with a 1 in 18″ twist. I’m looking to “break it in” on a deer and see how it does. In all these years, I may have used two or three shots on deer, but none of them have ever gone more than 40yds with any of my handgun hits. My longest shot with the handgun on a deer has probably been about 60yds with the .44, but the vast majority have been 30-45yds. I can keep the .44 in a paper plate at 100yds, my 586 and Trooper I’m good to 60 yds., and so far I’ve kept my new barrel in the black (4″) at 76yds. I’ve never hunted anything but deer with my handguns, but would love to try something else. I think if I went elk or bear, I’d load up some 300gr. XTP’s or try some heavy duty factory ammo.
- This reply was modified 3 months, 1 week ago by BillTell.
Attachments:December 7, 2013 at 9:09 am #10079
I’ve taken my 5.5 inch Redhawk in 44 mag for both deer hunting and on some bear drives. I use 240 gr XTP’s in it but haven’t killed anything yet. Semi-autos (handgun or rifle) are not legal for hunting here in Pa. so it’s revolvers or single shots.
December 7, 2013 at 3:05 pm #10085
- This reply was modified 3 months ago by dk99300.
Altho, normally, I do not hunt, solely with a hand gun, I have harvested many a deer with my revolvers, .357, .40, (a modified .401 power mag.) and a .44 mag.. In my opinion, the .357 just isn’t gun enuff, so any more, when I go into the bush, figuring I might see deer, I leave it home. However, both the .40, loaded with a 220 gr., cast bullet–at 1460 fps and the .44, loaded with a 235 gr. cast bullet at 1440 fps, do a very good job, as long as I do mine!
AllenDecember 7, 2013 at 6:28 pm #10090
Checkout http://www.garrettcartridges.com for the finest +P+ loaded .44 mag and +P+ 45/70 ammunition on today’s market. It is the bullets that make this ammo the best as Randy Garrett is one of the best metallurgy ammo loaders and it is a family run business. The last time I called his number he actually answered the phone rather than some hired receptionist. Great family run business.December 15, 2013 at 8:13 pm #10373
Okay, so I tried my new custom barreled Encore on a deer. (Are you paying attention ahoffman2?) .357 magnum, 180gr. Black Talon, 9.5″ Bull Barrel (it’s the black gun in my avatar & the photo in my previous post).
30yds, quartering very slightly towards me, almost broadside, THROUGH THE RIGHT SHOULDER BONE, THROUGH A RIB, THROUGH THE HEART, (see attached photo…man I was stoked!) THROUGH THE RIB ON THE FAR SIDE for a CLEAN PASS THROUGH!
One shot, he ran approximately 30 yards and dropped. Tell me again how the .357 magnum “just isn’t enough gun”… This is about the 6th or 7th deer I’ve taken with a .357, and I’ve never lost one. Remember boys and girls, if you put it in the right spot, you can kill almost anything with a .22. I think the biggest problem with the .357 is that hunters get nervous or don’t concentrate on their target. Granted, I wouldn’t be taking 150 yard shots across a field with it, but I’ll take anything under 100 yards. Like Clint Eastwood said, “A man’s got to know his limitations”…
Attachments:December 15, 2013 at 9:34 pm #10378
I’ve only killed two large animals with pistols, both black bears. I shot the first bear with a Govt model 1911 with a cast 220 gr semi-wadcutter bullet. Several years later I stalked another bear and shot it with my .44 mag Ruger 7 1/2 ” Super Blackhawk and a cast 250 gr semi-wadcutter bullet. Both were one shot kills.December 16, 2013 at 1:52 pm #10389
As I stated Bill, I do not go into the bush, deer hunting, with only a hand gun. However, there have been many times that I have just been out lookin’, only with a hand gun, and have ran into deer that I decided to take. I do not reload the .357, with the idea or intent to harvest deer. The heaviest bullet that I reload for the .357, is 158 gr., cast, that is suitable for the wife, kids or grand kids to shot. All 3 of my .357, 2 Ruger Security sixs’ and 1 S&W HP, mdl 19, are all 4 in. barreled–Not really suitable as deer hunting weapons! I have taken deer with them, however, with the exception of one–lucky head shot, I’ve had to trail the others. Not the case with the .40 or .44. With eather of those 2, they eather DIT, or only go a few yards.
AllenJanuary 29, 2014 at 11:29 am #12213
Hey Allen, I think we just had a misunderstanding on terminology… I think when you said the .357 “just isn’t enough gun”, if I knew you had in mind a 4″ barrel with 158 grain bullets, I think I might be inclined to agree with you… But as a handgun hunter, I can’t really see going out for a game animal the size of a deer with a handgun less than 6″, or 180 grains in the bullet. I think we owe it to the animals to make the cleanest kill possible, (less waste on the meat, also) and in my opinion, you need at least that 6″ to let the powder burn enough to get more zip and less flash. I also think that while the 158 grain bullet can do the job, the 180 gr will do it better… I just have more confidence in it, and that’s part of the game, isn’t it? When I designed my barrel, I tried to figure out how I can get the most burn from the powder, without making the barrel so long that the friction began to slow the bullet down after the powder completely burned… I think that 9.5″ has proven to be pretty optimal for me. The one in 18″ twist has also been great for stabilizing the bullet. I can’t wait for nicer weather to chronograph this round and see what it’s doing in fps coming out of my gun… Like I said before, bullet placement always is the trump, but it’s nice to know my load can cut clean holes through three solid bones plus the vitals, and pass right on through…. that also keeps us mindful of knowing what’s beyond your target!February 18, 2014 at 4:11 pm #12750
sawed off pellet gun!!!!!!!!!!
just kidding,Dan Wesson 357 8 inch barrel 158 grain jsp.
the wife-DanWesson 357 6 inch barrel.
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